patreon. . Share. They are nigh-immortal exemplars of legend, who stop at nothing to defend the Emperor and his The Primarchs without a doubt. The CP refund is always good, especially as many Custodes Stratagems are quite pricey but important. com/user?u=155590Want us to put out more videos, support us on our Pat Best. All 18 Primarchs decide to rebel against the Emperor during the Great Crusade and attack their father. We can be pretty confident in his statement since he himself is a Custodian. Reply reply. •. Valoris' name is spoken of with nothing short of reverence, for many consider the Captain-General to be the personal representative We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Custodes also seem to fight more like Primarchs (single combat, no care for unit formation and the like) while Astartes fight as units. In the grim darkness of the future, Shiny men are unstoppable. Who are said to be in a small group be able to take on a primarch. He plummeted into the icy mountains of that planet, and not long after a slaver found him and a scene of carnage. Jan 8, 2022 · Adeptus Custodes. The former out of armor, the latter I don't remember being specified. 5. Many of the awkward elements of their anatomy, and diminutive size compared to other human models in the game, pushed us to begin Pretty sure those were Custodes, not primarchs. If you live 100, 1000 or 100 000 years but still die at the end, you are mortal. He is probably the only combatant outside of some extra dimensional being that would give a Primarch pause. Guilliman vs Magnus: Guilliman forces Magnus back with the help of the Sisters of Silence. No primarchs. They fight on battle scared terrain Mar 18, 2024 · The Adeptus Custodes, also known as the Custodian Guard, are the elite bodyguards of the Emperor of Mankind in the Warhammer 40K universe. Dec 2, 2012 · custodes are stronger then space marines primarchs are, of course, stronger then space marines are primarchs and custodes pretty much on the same level, or are the primarchs stronger then then as well. 1-Harlequins and Custodes are usually presented in the same power level, they are both the extreme elite of their races with very few numbers. Primaris Marine vs a Shield-Captain of the Custodes. Mar 1, 2018 · Are Custodes and Primarchs just superhuman but biologically identical to humans or do they share some of the weird stuff Astartes are implanted with? 2018/03/01 12:49:47 Subject: Re:Custodes and Primarch Creation vs Astartes Creation The pure primarch gene-stock was then further differentiated into the 20 separate genetic templates that would serve as the individual primarchs' genomes. May 19, 2024 · A younger Angron on Nuceria [26c] During the Scattering, the boy that would become known as Angron was thrown to the Civilised World of Nuceria, far from Terra. A Bloodthirster is within their capability, yeah. Custodes are designed as Bodyguards, rather than Soldiers. So even Magnus, Angron, Mortarion, and Fulgrim could be weaker or stronger than any given greater daemon depending on their current favour and that greater daemon's current favour. Some died during the Heresy war itself, including Ferrus Manus, Alpharius, Konrad Curze, Sanguinius, and Horus. Anathema Psykana. The battlefield is Terra's Imperial Palace… Sep 2, 2013 · Dark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log in Apr 26, 2024 · This all changed with Primarch Roboute Guilliman’s return. So Jain Zarr might be good at stabbing people and being spooky but is roadkill to a Chimera going flat out or A Basilisk volley from 80 miles off. axeteam. Reply. The Lion is slightly taller than Guilliman so I’d put him at at least 12 feet. 4. Restrictions : custodes have unlimited ammo with their starting gear, but not for any they aquire. They are ten thousand strong and primarily guard the Imperial Palace as opposed to fighting on the battlefields of mankind. And he also remembers the story of how the more flashy and blingy the warrior, the deadlier he is. The Adeptus Custodes are known as “The Ten Thousand” – their full strength – which was reached by the time of the Horus Heresy. So the best way to survive a gauss shot is by not getting hit directly/by wearing thick layers of armor/by having a forcefield/by being a psyker and making a shield. They are to the Space Marines as the Emperor is to His Primarchs, and it is rumoured that they were each created by the Master of Mankind personally. Hope is a mistake. As stated in the Watchers of the Thone by Valerian, Custodians are not soldiers. Noticing how flashy the custodes is, he runs away. Marneus Calgar: Calgar got stomped by a swarmlord. And a prefect is directly more experienced and powerful then a shield captain so the prefect should pull this off. The location is the Citadel. A Primarch, on the other hand, not unless the circumstances were weighed very, very heavily in their favour. ADMIN MOD. At the end of the battle score. The Adeptus Custodes were the first and greatest of the super-soldiers engineered by the Emperor. Master of Martial Strategy- 5+ CP refund each time you use a Stratagem, and you can change the order of your Ka’tah once per game, though you can’t use a Stance again even if moved. There is no functional way a Custodes is losing to a Primarch in single combat. Apr 13, 2024 · The Adeptus Custodes started out pretty strong in 10th edition, winning the US Open Tacoma and a handful of other events – and were in fact, so strong they needed to be toned down a bit. The Emperor turned over mountains and cities just to find Valdor. Something like space marines are generally 7' tall/a little over 2 metres, primaris space marines are 8 1/2 feet tall/over 2. Lone Primarch vs a squad of Custodes: Primarch still wins but the chance of him being wounded goes way up. 2018/02/08 23:51:30 Subject: Custodes vs Primaris: Which is stronger? Anyway; no, a generic Custodes stands no chance against a Solitaire. Even Lorgar with his Brutal (2) club is a threat. Surrounding the wounded young Primarch were the corpses of numerous Xenos. If we consider a space marine would be an allrounder they should be able to pull 10 chimeras given the 1:200 ratio for humans. 16. Adeptus Custodes. 5 metres tall, and primarchs are roughly 10 feet/3 metres tall with Alpharius Omegon possibly being smaller. Outcome was not surprising. Abbadon would have to have some pretty stacked weapons to even it out. There are charts on Google (supposedly custodes are just half a head taller than primaris and half a head shorter than a primarch), but if I were to use the current Terminators (the full upright ones) as example, should the custodes be the same height or taller? Jun 12, 2018 · The Emperor's original choice for His replacement on the artefact had been the Primarch Magnus the Red, but since Magnus and his Thousand Sons Legion had sided with Horus and the Chaos God Tzeentch, Malcador was now His chosen successor and the only remaining human psyker with enough strength to carry out the duty of protecting the Throneworld Angron beats Kratos in everything except sheer strength, Kratos is bloody insane win pure strength feats. Custodes are led by constantine valdor. In fantasy, "mortal" is often badly used. also, an assassin having a 0. Omegon had trouble beating up a mere two Space Marines. This would mean that enough SoS could even trow a Primarch off balance. Each is a warrior of superlative might and superhuman resilience, a strategist and tactician to rival the greatest generals, and so much more besides. Captain and Ancient models also exist in the 1,000 Custodes beat an army of 100,000 Orks (that was kicking the ass of 3x primarchs and their legions, so these were not typical boyz), taking a grand total of. See full list on warhammer40k. Considering Malal was never a 5th god and only existed in fantasy for a brief comic book series by a freelance writer, whoever came up with that theory needs a slap >_<. Deadly warriors said to slaughter his ilk with contemptuous ease. If Abbadon got the better of them in a fight they would be able to retreat. Analysis of Custodian/Primarch Relationship. The only space marine A greater daemon of low favour could be weaker than a Prince of high favour, and vice versa. Psykers, very sneaky Primarchs and precognitives are a problem, which We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Having read the new Dark Imperium book. Remember he is also a psyker, I get some people hate him but be objective, the guy is a Primarch, that alone puts him on a level waaaay above a space marine. Chimera weight about 40t. We know Death Jesters and Shadowseers can fight and beat individual Custodes, and a Solitaire is capable of defeating Greater Daemons regularly, whilst I know of no Generic Custodes ever on his own defeating a Greater Daemon. HOLY SHIT!! THE BLACK TEMPLARS!! (spoilers for Throne Of Light) In the latest Dawn of Fire book, Throne of Light, a crusade fo Black Templars received their Primaris reinforcements, accompanied by Custodes. For comparison: The world record in deadlift is 501kg . Valdor gets special treatment as they want to have at least someone that isn't a greater demon or another Primarch be able to fight a Primarch and have a fair chance. Drazhar took on 3 custodes and won. Much to the custodes relief. They are still at full strength in the days of Guillimans’ return. Lone Primarch vs multiple squads of Custodes: Primarch probably takes the L here or wins a Pyrrhic victory at best Feb 9, 2018 · Not bad for the weakest Primarch To me the weakest Primarch would be Lorgar before the awakening of his psychic powers. ”-Based on the Comic made by emwattnot which was originally based on an old Star Wars Comic pan Trajann Valoris is the current Chief Custodian and 17th Captain-General of the Adeptus Custodes, the elite bodyguard of the Emperor of Mankind, and perhaps the deadliest individual warrior in the entire Imperium. On paper, absolutely yes. Human < astartes < primaris < custodes < primarch. Primaris Marines are unrelated to Custodians, and are a new generation of bigger/stronger Marines with three new organs . Astartes are made by implanting a bunch of organs in an existing human, while Primarchs were straight up made in a lab. Gabriel Seth defeated and recruited an Eversor in one on one combat. Custodies do not (necessarily) answer to primarchs. Jun 15, 2017 · Primaris Space Marines: First Impressions. So in theory you don't need to be an ogryn to pull 2 chimeras. That leaves the Veneum and Culexus Clades, but I don’t think either stands a serious chance. The bulk of the UNSC's small arms are guardsmen-level and the At their core they're still just the best the Necrontyr had at the time they underwent biotransferrence. Custodes are more accustomed to blanks than most other targets and are presumably even more resistant to poison than an Astartes. Award. They have the greatest armour, able to take huge amounts of damage from all kinds of sources, and weapons able to chop through power armour with ease. Jun 19, 2019 · Jun 19, 2019. I dislike hierarchical axioms of power such as. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. what different process did the emperor use to create the primarchs then the custodes For Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War - Soulstorm on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Custode vs Primarchs". What would happen if a child hugged a Primarch? Well, if a child were to hug the leg of a primarch, no matter which one of the 18 it was, they would be amazed at the child's bravery, as hugging a primarch required a lot of bravery. Guilliman and Sanguinius are easily close to 12 feet tall depicted on the cover of Unremembered Empire. Who even unnamed can give even the best space marine duelists, named characters, not only a challenge, but a genuine threat because of how dangerous they are. This was one of the new ones – a Primaris, greater in stature and speed than any of his cousins, the great legacy of the primarch to his new Imperium. Angron should be much faster than Kratos and he has psychic powers (which is basically magic in 40k universe). on the other hand, if the Primarch got the upper hand he would end him quickly. His weapon, may also be insanely powerful against demon Primarchs. Assume that all Primarchs are at their most powerful (and for traitors non-Daemon Prince selves). 2: He was used in a proto-primarch program before the emperor realized he would need warp power. ManillaVermin. Combatants are 1 member of the Adeptus Custodes and the entire Citadel. Victory Conditions: The Custodes has to kill everything on the Citadel, and the Citadel has to kill, knock out or otherwise subdue the Custodes. (All assumption obviously!) Primaris are an improvement over Astartes. Remember, the Phoenix Lords are good at one style of combat. A thunder warrior is a bit stronger than a space marine, a custodian makes a space marine look like a regular human by comparison. Primarchs are far above Custodes. Hi, am planning to start a new army, but the current Custodes are pretty dated in design/size, so probably go with kitbashing. Whether Orks could actually 'evolve' back to that old level is something only to be theorized, and probably will never happen in modern lore unless GW can drive sales with it. But there's gonna be a body count. Like I can imagine a particularly badass Astartes could take one down but generally the Primaris is worth at least two Astartes. However Valdor was unable to stomach lying to his Custodes while Trajan easily manipulated a few so there’s that. I can't seem to recall if they explicitly described the size difference when the primarchs fought regular space May 8, 2018 · Captain Angel. Triarch Praetorians are their equivalents of Custodes, the bodyguards of the Silent King. Valdor is far superior in every aspect. In this fight to the death, Kratos will only fight them 1v1, so, Kratos v Leman Russ, etc. Space Marines could also train with them and learn to compensate for the small loss in speed/reflexes to still preform great in combat. #1. Since we have all indication he didn’t quite enjoy Primarch’s company, choosing to ignore them all during the War in the Webway to chill with his Custodes. His level of badassery supports it, but not much else. Throwing together rules from other board games to make a projection why the rule "Keyword: Primarch" of the 30k table top makes an outlandish showerthought, contradicting everything written about the Custodes, reasonable lore for 40k - thats not a basis for a discussion. Khan vs Mortarion: Khan wins, is more of a draw. Jan 8, 2015 · Jan 8, 2015. I've read somewhere, something like 1 in a million kids is fit to become a Custodes aspirant, and then a good chunk of them die before completion. Hed beat most custodes in a fair fight but an actual primarch would chew him up. Angron wins this one. 3roy. Scenario: An entire squad of custodes decides to gang up on said primarch all simultaneously. Jan 10, 2018 · The Custodes are Many. We haven't seen much of him in combat but he's probably stronger than a custodes given he is a powerful psycher too. A place for Warhammer 40k Blood Angels and their successors. This is how Leman Russ is able to win. My friend only has grey knights at the moment as an army while I play Custodes Custodes don't care where the recruit is from as long as it's genetically pure. The Adeptus Custodes are far beyond the AstartesAstartesIn the fictional universe of Warhammer 40,000, the Space Marines, also Its just that you dont make a Knight fight an Imperator, just like you dont have an Eversor compare to a Custodian purely on their ability to fight. A Phoenix Lord might be equivalent to the weakest of the Primarchs and probably on par with a Golden Banana Shield Tribune. As far as I know, thunder warriors were the pinnacle of bio-engineered soldiers at the time of their introduction, in the Reunification of Terra. They are particularly well known for their bloodthirsty nature in battle. A Primarch is to a space marine what a space marine is to a base-line human. Edit: The Custodes first appears in the Quasar. The spartan remembers the tales of the space marines. Custodes wear more durable armors, but they are not that thick so it wouldn't matter much. It is said that a Custodes is to an Astartes what an Astartes is to an Imperial guardsman. Feats include killing an Eldar god and shattering a planet with one blow. Probably around where the mortal champions of chaos are. • 8 yr. 2. He wasn't actually Omegon, just thought he was, of course. Custodes are just more expensive vs the new GK points. Well the Custodes take orders from Guilliman now, so I'd say they are below the Primarch's. 1: He is a regular who lucked out and was the perfect candidate for being a custodes by genetic draw. outright combat skill would be given to any Primach. com The custodes and the primarches were designed for different things. They are a bit smarter than this, you just die because the process is too hard. Your first premise is flawed, a Primarch's reaction to being transported would not necessarily be to demand answers and upon finding none, start killing with reckless abandon (Excluding Angron) But on topic Alpharius/Omegon and create a worldwide secret organization that infiltrates the world's militaries, and in say 5 years launches a Sort by: [deleted] • 5 yr. They are renowned for their unwavering loyalty, extraordinary combat skills, and majestic golden armor. Astartes are far above normal humans. Recent dataslate changes pushed them back up after some time in the competitive doldrums, but with the new Codex they’re set to receive a full rules overhaul. Constantine Valor also admitted very bluntly that if He and Russ fought he would die, though I'm not sure if your including him. 4 Adeptus Custodes vs The Current USA. And the Emperor is just straight up a hot mess even outside of art depictions. That is all we know until 8th Edition gets released. If you were to create a ranking chart the HLOT, Primarchs, And Captain General are all equal with only The Emperor above them. After the Battle of Luna, where he fought alongside them, Guilliman declared the Dispensatus Anathema. 3. They each specialize in a form of warfare. Lone Primarch vs one Custodes: Primarch wins every time even shitty ones like Lorgar are way more than a match for a Custodes. Custodes also suffer from this, but have spend years training under the effect so they don't seem impacted as much. (This is based on Colquan's estimate vs Gulletman) 6. Somewhere between the number of guardsmen and the number of Sisters of Battle needed to beat a Custodes. 3: He is related to the emperor, either directly or descended from from someone the emperor hooked up with And he was made to see like an especially old and dangerous Ork, not a Kroak. The custodes are getting stomped, HARD. They are taller, broader, stronger and faster than an Astartes. ) 'hero custodes' meanwhile are people like Valdor, who spar and do battle with primarchs. "The Blood Angels, originally known as the Revenant Legion were the IX Legion of the original Space Marine Legions under their Primarch Sanguinius. Getting hold of these minis might be tricky though. They are infused with the warp and aspects of the emperor’s power. Calgar defeated a high ranking, named Bloodthirster. And in a book a shield Captain was able to kill a swarmlord in a 1v1 dispite taking heavy damage. Well I remember reading that around 25 Custodes were sent to watch Lorgar so considering Lorgar was the weakest Primarch in terms of combat quite a few. May 27, 2021 · Option 1 – Indomitus Armour: The easiest method is to just buy the Season 2 Heroes range. The Custodes is an elite cadre of genetically-engineered transhuman warriors who are even more potent in combat than the Adeptus Astartes. Who we know were his conversation buddies, companions, debate friends. The Heroes range does feel like GW’s attempt at making true scale First Born. Leman Russ specifically, per Chris Wraight. 3 casualties. To add to your Primarch height examples, Lorgar and Jonson are both described as just under 3 meters prior to rediscovery, in Bearer of the Word and Descent of Angels respectively. You are teleported into the Warhammer 40k universe during a meeting of all the Primarchs and the Emperor. While attempting to apprehend the spy for questioning, they are stopped by a primarch and this ensues. So this just kind of popped in my head one day so try to keep an open mind as this is just a theory. Over the years, we have become increasingly critical of the miniature design of Space Marines, and the discrepancies between them and much of the artwork. I think there are 3 options for valdor. But in 70% eversor would die too to kill custodes. 2 squads of 5 prosecutors make for nice obj holders too. He risked alot just to get to Valdor, Valdor is built different. Kratos, the Spartan General who killed his family, then Aries, and then the rest of the Greek gods is thrust into the 40k unviverse and the Emperor sends his Primarchs to kill this "God". The Custodes should be closer to 9, and Dorn is shorter than most Primarchs but I’d still put him close to 11 feet tall. Custodes is still superior though would give a harder fight than a space marine in majority of circumstances. The takeaway most people get is that this is because Primarchs are invincible, but I really appreciate it more when we see that it's in actuality due to the Primarchs effectively shutting down the advantages against them. 5VP if that unit is destroyed; 5VP if that unit was destroyed by a CUSTODES or ANATHEMA unit in melee Feb 26, 2021 · 1. Don’t sent a Primarch alone though – he’ll get challenged, kill one guy and the rest of the squad will get to poke at him with their spears. Ever since encountering the first of these, back during our campaign against the Splintered, I had speculated on If an exitus rifle can theoretically kill a Primarch a Custodes should be no problem. Thunder Warriors vs Custodes. From Blood Games: two Custodes investigate a potential spy on Terra helping feed Horus Lupercal information to help the traitor war effort. The dragons in Warcraft call individual of other races "mortals" and yet they can die like the rest of them. Can defeat an unnamed Greater Daemon but doubtfully they can beat a Primarch but they have We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Jul 24, 2022 · Primarch VS Adeptus Custodes in Warhammer 40K For the Greater WAAAGHhttp://www. Result: As long as there's at least 12 or more of the oily golden boys they'll probably win. The data concerning the original engineering of the individual primarch strands was later analyzed by a Raven Guard Apothecary and a magos genetor of the Mechanicum during the Horus Heresy Custodes, an average thunder warrior can probably take the low tier, somebody like Taranis could likely stand against higher tier guys, but Valdor would beat him 1 vs 1. Getting MW bombed doesn’t help much either lol. Like the Custodes, they took inspiration from the emperor's genetics. In the UK, you can buy Rise of the Orks which includes the five-squad model. Right, which is why I compared the performance of both against Astartes rather than saying 'Lelith can beat Astartes so she can also beat Custodes'. May 7, 2018. Abaddon killing clone of Horus. This guide delves into their rich history, organization, notable battles, and the intricate details Nov 5, 2022 · It’s almost like Primarchs out-Custodes the Custodes – attacking them at even higher initiative with AP2 and a variety of horrible special rules. A Custodes official is probably superior in fighting prowess to any Astartes but easily beaten by a Primarch, while the leader of the Custodes can surprise a Primarch and defeat one if the opponent gets cocky. Average Custodes don't stand a chance against primarchs, but Valdor, their Sigismund, could probably take the lowest tier primarchs, for example, Lorgar. 035% chance of killing a Primarch in no way means they will give a C'tan a fair fight, a C'tan would wreck a Primarch (they would wreck anything that isn't the Emperor, a Chaos god, Silent king or Gork and Mork. Nov 24, 2023 · In the closing years of M41 and opening decades of M42 (the ‘now’ of the Warhammer 40k setting), the primarchs are almost all dead, presumed dead, long lost, or alive only as twisted, Chaos Daemon Princes serving their dark gods. The USA must take a realistic measured approach : they wont nuke them right off the bat, or unless they believe there is no other way and it is necessary. The Primarch's are a higher Authority than Custodes. The Custodes are the best of the best in 40k, a single custodes was able to dispatch a group of 3 high ranking space marine in seconds. Guilliman vs Mortarion: Guilliman pulls an ace. A PRIMARCH or SUPREME COMMANDER is marked for death, or if neither is present the enemy unit with the highest points value, excluding AIRCRAFT. Oh no you are right just pointing out the massive difference there. Some theories state that Valdor is a primarch of one of the lost legions. If you have guard or 25mm base units laying around just proxy them as Sisters of Silence. Lychguard are not really an example of the pinnacle of what the Necrons are able to accomplish the way that the custodes are for the emperor. Yes, eversor can kill Custodes. There are various things to take in account to this specific scene. 4a. The primarches were designed to be generals, to lead the legions of space marines. They are so overpowered in the lore, it's always great to see this eldar "primarchs" in a fight. It depends heavily on the Primarch, but Valdor was the template for all of the Custodes for a reason. I don't agree with it but it's there. Custodes are living weapons created for a single purpose and using tech from the daot. Heresy to even ask such a thing. #5. fandom. Warhammer 30K (Horus Heresy) Battle ReportWelcome back SN Community! The NEW Legio Custodes have arrived!! We've thrown the Iron Warriors, and for the first Valdor, is quoted as being able to “match a Primarch in bladework” and he is taller than some Primarchs. Those Sisters who had stood beside him were to be dispatched to find others of their kind, and the disparate Sisters of Silence scattered all over the Imperium were made a crucial As a summary of incidents of when the IoM beat daemonic primarchs: With primarchs: Dorn vs Fulgrim: Dorn wins conventionally. Fearless-Obligation6 • 2 yr. The Thunder Warriors, also sometimes referred to in ancient records as the Thunder Legion and the Thunder Regiments, and known in High Gothic as the Legiones Cataegis, were the 20 regiments or legions of genetically-engineered, superhuman warriors of Terra created by the design of the Emperor of Mankind through alchemical augmentation, somatic gene-sculpting and muscle-grafting techniques . He was a phenomenal combatant, not because of sheer strength or speed, but his tactical acumen as well. Maybe we will see his power one day, but to Mortal = a being who can die, no matter how long his lifespan is. The whole point is he's going absolutely bonkers on a group of CSM and the Custodes are basically standing there wondering if they're his bodyguards, or if he's been assigned to protect them. Custodian would win that’s not even a question. ago. And assume two scenarios: This would mean it would take 10 - 40 Custodes for a single Primarch, as long as it is one of the Primarchs that fight fair (Dorn, Perturbaro, Mortarion, Angron, Russ, pre-Molech Horus, Alpharius [if you can find him], the Khan, the Lion, Ferrus Manus, pre-ascension Fulgrim). So most likely the tip level Krorks are stronger than Primarchs. One isn’t taking out a dozen custodes, and you are underestimating harlequins. That said, the Primarch isn't going to come away at all cleanly. What would matter is personal forcefields, which would count as an other layer of "armor". However, Valdor is a shadow, he always was a shadow, and will always remain so. Ignoring the fact that Custodes have a larger arsenal and a higher (existant) standing with the ADMIN MOD. Phaeron of the Suhbekhar Dynasty, called the Crimson Scythe. Well, shit hit the fan spectacularly, because the Chaplain of that particular crusade declared the Primaris heresy and an Its no a valid discussion because the theory itself is unreasonable. Whatever the writer needs for plot reasons. After the Emperor’s interment in the Golden Throne, they remained at his side on Terra, to guard his person. MacroMintt. Custodes are far above Astartes. As far as Necron heroes go, Ahmontekh the Starslayer is probably the most notable. Sep 8, 2021 · So assume that in a battlefield similar to a modern day Earth megalopolis for some reason or another all Primarchs are facing against Custodes in their typical wargear. 1-Alpha Primus. ypkwdsuplmjwdqypbzim